WOI: News Clip 391

recently at Iowa State as well as Simpson and Grinnell dr. David Smith discussed some of the aspects of the drug problem dr. Smith is medical director of the haight-ashbury medical clinic and consultant on drug abuse for the department of psychiatry at San Francisco General Hospital and rather than go down through the usual sort of listing of identification of the different drugs and some of the factors involved I'd like for you to discuss some of the things that oftentimes aren't talked about at what point is the accurate drug information essential for our young people in their developmental stage well I think the most important thing to understand is that any drug pattern is an interaction between a chemical personality and a social environment and therefore when you're gonna educate young people about drugs you've really got to start at a time before they start thinking about taking the chemicals or experiencing the social pressures that might lead them to to use drugs and I think that it should begin in in elementary school in the bay area the decision to take drugs starts about the seventh grade so obviously if you're going to have a form of conceptual drug education that is meaningful it has to occur before the seventh grade but it really has to be not just you know illegal drugs it has to also discuss what the whole act of ingesting a foreign chemical in your body means what taking aspirin means what smoking cigarettes means what taking penicillin is in other words it has to be a conceptual thing that emphasizes all aspects of drug taking so that is relevant for the young person when he is actually placed in a situation and in which he might be tempted most the young people get started on experimentation with illegal drugs because of curiosity peer group pressure and if you haven't worked with your young person and helped him make decisions about how to resist these things then your drug education hasn't been successful well if you have given inaccurate information then this also adds to the the fun of experimenting because then the results are different from what somebody told you they would be and so why believe anything they say does this happen well this is a one of the big problems with drug education as it's currently formulated is that there's a great deal of misinformation and most of the material relates to specific drug facts and then school administrators in particular are very anxious to make certain things seem a lot worse than they really are particularly the area of marijuana so they'll throw out some information that's not true but it's scary and they don't think that this matters much but if you've then had a very good drug education program and you've talked about amphetamine and barbiturates and heroin and the real dangers of these substances and then at a later time the young person hears or finds out one way or another that what you said about marijuana was invalid then the reaction is to reject everything you've said and this is one of the biggest barriers to effective drug education the fact that young people think that we're lying to them about everything and then they always point out certain specific bits of misinformation as a way of documenting that all of it should be rejected and I think that our biggest goal in drug education is to establish credibility and when you're speaking of the the results of the drug intake and the things that it can do with with the body I suspect that many adults are not aware of the things that happen and that the diet pill doesn't just take off the take down the appetite and the weight but that there are many other things that are involved in many serious consequences in the long run yes all right going on to something else that impressed me as talking with you as the factor of the illegal drug market being extremely detrimental as far as again the young people because of the environment that they have to go through during their teenage and pre teenage years in order to obtain the drug that many times they're going to be getting could you elaborate a little bit on this and the consequences of some well one of the biggest concerns of those of us that are in the treatment of young people is that although you it's essential to have regulation of drugs in law enforcement to it in to control supply particularly the more dangerous drugs such as heroin barbiturates amphetamine LSD the criminalization of the drug user in other words treating him as a criminal has produced in particularly the young many more serious consequences than the act that he's gone through for example then anytime you have a drug in large demand then a delivery system will develop even if you've made it illegal we have a very naive feeling the United States that if we just made a drug illegal then it'll go away and we should have learned that this doesn't work with prohibition for example that with prohibition all's we did with prohibition was to lose control of the distribution of that drug and a huge black market developed to supply the drug now there is a huge black market in marijuana the young person that wants to buy marijuana has to enter into this illegal drug scene he is exposed to a variety of other influences and temptations and particularly if he smokes marijuana and finds out that it didn't lead to mania and all these other horrible things that he found out about in the drug education program at school then he's liable to say well they must have been lying to me about these other agents and certainly he they're readily available and then he goes on and experiments with these other things in the Bay Area for example if you legalized marijuana you would decrease its availability decrease its availability to minors because it's easier for a minor to get pot than it is booze because there's such a huge marijuana black market now our biggest concerns are not with adult marijuana use but with minor marijuana use we don't want young people in the formative stages of their adolescent maturation to be taking any drugs not marijuana not pills not booze not anything and it's of course very difficult to try to get them through these crucial stages of adolescent (maturation?) without them getting involved with drugs but we're certainly not decreasing the availability at least in the big city areas of marijuana by making it illegal in fact by making a a drug that has a billion-dollar market in the United States illegal we're increasing its attractiveness by making it a forbidden fruit we're increasing and supporting this very well-organized black-market distribution system and we're exposing them to a system that we want to keep them out of well exposing them to greater availability as well as to an environment that is not conducive to the full development as they should be developing right one nice thing do you have available a list of literature that would be on the levels that parents would be able to get good information well the place to write for that type of information is the National Institute of Mental Health and their drug abuse section we have literature at our clinic that's a little bit more sophisticated but I think you can get the simple literature for for parents and for youth in large quantity from the National Institute of Mental Health and they and they distribute it for free and thank you our guest has been dr. David Smith he is medical director of haight-ashbury medical clinic and a consultant on drug abuse for the department of psychiatry at San Francisco General Hospital and thank you very very much for taking the time if you go away on this beautiful day and then you might as well take the Sun away all the birds that flew in the summer sky when our love was new and our hearts were high when the day was young when the nights were long and the moon stood still for a night birdsong if you go away if you go away if you go away if you go away as I know you will you must tell the world to stop turning til you return again if you ever do for what good is love without loving you can I tell you now as you turn to go I'll be dying slowly till the next hello if you go away if you go away if you go away but if you stay i'll make you a day like no day has been or will be again i'll (inaudible) on your smile i'll (inaudible) on your touch i'll talk to your eyes that i love so much then if you go i'll understand leave me just enough love to fill up my hand if you go away if you go away if you go away is that I love so much then if you go understand leave me just another love in the play if you go away if you go away if you go away if you go away as I know you must there'll be nothing left in the world to trust just an empty room full of empty space like that empty look I see on your face oh I'd have been the shadow of your shadow if I thought it might have kept me by your side if you go away if you go away if you go away but if you stay I'll make you a night like no night has been or will be again we'll sail on the Sun we'll glide on the rain we'll talk to the trees and worship the wind then if you go go I won't cry though the good is gone from the word goodbye if you go away if you go away if you go away please don't go away these are the chief tones who are performing at the Iowa sports and vacation show and the lead guitar for the group is Jack Cecil so Jack why don't you first introduce the other men all right the start with our lead singer and hereditary chief from Northwestern British Columbia member of the Gitxsan tribe from the (inaudible) nation chief (inaudible) lead singer on the bass guitar is his big little brother his name is Barry Clifford and the fellow on the drums is Richard Douse now all of you are from British Columbian is this true yes Northwestern British columbia from nass and Skeena River areas we we all belong to the (inaudible) nation and I am of the Niska tribe and the rest are of the gixsan tribe how did you get together did you are you from the same area as far as you know did you go to school together or what well yes we spent well I spent the last few years of my education in in northern Alberta in Edmonton and so did the rest of the boys and this was where we got together at a student meeting of some 120 students and we were picked out at random you know like one two three four five we were gonna start a band you know start start something to get to gain some kind of recognition and go out and foster better Indian and non-indian relations and this was how we got our start from this meeting at which time the students decided to you know to do something to get to gain recognition as Indians so you were chosen to become a band have you had musical experience before that time no we have never had any musical lechon lessons singer has never had any vocal lessons or any type of all we don't know music as a matter of fact what we just play as we feel it and just for I wanted to say our director is the one who picked us out at random John Radcliffe is his name he's the one that runs our sound system and he does a very good job now how long ago did you become a group were you formed six years ago last week was it 20 the 24th last week now have you been performing since that time or did it take you a while to get your routines worked out well we have been performing on and off since that time we had our start of course like every entertainer I think has had you know like going out and doing charity work for retarded children's homes and old folks homes and hospitals and whatnot we still do these whenever we get the chance to and after we've gotten started in this we had to turn professional because we started getting paid for what we were doing and while we had our start in Quebec Canada and then move down into the States and since then we've been traveling throughout the United States and out of the country also other than sports shows of this type what kind of things do you play right now well we were in the middle of doing well sports shows and just state fairs and some of the larger county fairs and every so often we do a concert on our own at which time we do about two hours two and a half depending on how much music the people want from us and once in a great while we would do an a nightclub or a supper club you are on the road quite a bit how often do you get home well we have been home three days in the last six years so we're on a road about 150 thousand miles a year what kind of music do you play oh I play everything from Brahms to the Beatles just everything to name some examples we do Country and Western like you know some of the chooses Johnny Cash has brought out like Folsom Prison Blues I would do something real Western like the old Hank Williams greats like your cheatin heart and stuff like that and then we do religious numbers very deep numbers like I believe and you'll never walk alone one god I don't know if you've ever heard that number but it's a very beautiful number and we also do some novelty tunes like alley-oop and stuff like that you know whenever we can put them all kinds yeag ok this is the chieftones good afternoon I'm Connie Pratt today we're visiting at the North polk Community High School and the junior high class the eighth graders there are hooking rugs the instructor is mrs. Mary Anderson and this is the art class how long have they been working on these rugs probably about two weeks right now it takes quite a while to do these it's not hard at all it just takes time how did they start figuring out their pattern first I was actually stressing design when I gave this problem this is what I want the junior high to learn most of all our fundamentals of design and I want them to learn that everything must have a center of interest in a design and also they were working with a color problem so this kind of solved two different things I wanted them to learn this 9 weeks have any of your class has ever done this kind of thing before no this is the first time I presented this it was pretty much up to the girls if they wanted to spend the money for the yarn and the burlap and have something really nice looking when they got through and then the school bought the frames yeah bought the frames and the hooks okay let's start by talking with the different girls in the class come on this side of you could you please tell us what your name is and what town you're from I'm Mary vota from Polk City okay what kind of a design is this is it any particular thing or is it just kind of an abstract it's just any design just a design what kind of colors are you using for someone who might not a yellow and blue and green and burgundy how much time have you spent on this you've been working on quite a while you take it home with you yeah i take it home with me could you tell us who you are and where you're from I'm debbie (inaudible) from Polk City okay Debbie what's your pattern how would you describe it oh it kind of like stained glass windows that's what it's supposed to look like anyway now your teacher said you should have a center of interest what's your center of interest how can you describe that I might put just a different color in here that'll stand out from all the rest of them mm-hmm okay what colors are you using got brown and orange and green and purple and yellow and red and blue and darker greens how do you decide what colors will work together do you have a color wheel or something are you just picking what you like together just pick what you think goes good together okay this one I can see already it's gonna be a peace symbol when it's done who are you Kathy (inaudible) where are you from Kathy Polk city boy a lot of you from are all of you from Polk City no just most of you huh okay do you have to use a special kind of yarn when you make something like this yeah you've got to use rug yarn where can you buy that almost any where they sell yarn okay and just regular canvas you're using right particular size or just to match your frame yeah okay there is a particular type of rug canvas you can use that is more closely woven however I think burlap suited that's just fine in price and for beginning workmanship yeah okay who are you please Mary right where are you from Mary Polk city another one yeah okay now yours is different from the other ones that we looked at so far it's got letters on it you have to do something different when you're working with letters well wouldn't draw it on here you have to draw it on backwards right we've got to remember that you're doing the backs of your rugs is yours going to be a rug or you're gonna use it as a wall hanging wall hanging wall hanging okay hi hi who are you neva (sash?) where are you from neca sheldahl okay what kind of a tool is it that you're using this what do you call it it's a hook it's for hooking rugs what's the little piece of wire there for what's that do this keeps it going down too far and makes the (inaudible) mm-hmm you have to punch it all the way down to that little wire thing right or what happens then is it uneven on the other side yes sometimes you get longer and sometimes it comes undone you're gonna make yours as a wall hanging or a rug wall hanging wall hanging okay do you put it in a different frame after you're done with it then or what well sometimes you can or you can just leave it without a frame on it at all yeah okay hi hi who are you Cheryl (morill) where are you from Cheryl Polk City mm-hmm what can you tell us about your design is it all gonna be in this blue and green yes or are there another color just those two you like those too huh or does your mother like them I like them is yours going to be a wall hanging yes okay how do you get the canvas or the burlap into the frame is there a special way you have to do it we stapled it mm-hmm do you start you know on the edge and go all the way around when you're stapling you don't have to stretch it or anything particularly huh yeah stretch it okay hi hi who are you please Cindy ma'am where are you from Cindy poke city another one the whole bunch is here yours is a bluebird now yours has spaces in it is that you want it that way in the bird or will you fill them in yeah fill them in is it possible to make a mistake when you're doing one of these yeah how do you fix it then just can you take the the yarn out yeah okay I think there have been several of them who have pulled things out and started over again but that's not quite good enough to please them it's not a hard process to take it out though no okay hi hi who are you Sue (inaudible) and you've got a cold don't you Sue yeah you're losing your voice yours is kind of a looks kind of like a flower but it's just abstract isn't it yes it's not really anything particular what colous have you got in yours tangerine green kind of a beige yeah what color will you put on the outside here the kind of background is tangerine I see it's gonna be that orange all the way around okay don't you show that design I think it's quite okay good can you flip it so that we can mm-hmm that's pretty colors especially yeah you like those colors or does your mother like it yeah kinda real pretty and who are you Cathy Murphy where are you from Cathy Polk City okay what's your design mine's a flower okay what color you've got purple and green so far you're gonna use anything else on yours we're gonna have a light blue background in there and dark blue mm-hmm how'd you go about deciding in your design oh I saw some pictures in magazines decided to use it reminded you of the flower what's yours going to be a wall hanging too yes okay we have a finished product here to look at which will give us a better idea of what it looks like when the girls are done this one you used as a wall hanging is that right yes I actually made this for my sister and I just robbed her of it again so I could show the girls what they'd actually be having when they're finished sometimes when you're working on something like this and it takes so long and it is a good project to do when you're watching TV you can punch along but you need a little encouragement when you're starting yeah so I think this kind of set them off better when they saw what they were going to wind up with now will they put this fringe around theirs probably when they're done I think so I think it's the best way to really finish off these designs the burlap will be folded over and hemmed mm-hmm and then I took another type of stitch with yarn and using about four strands and a great big tapestry needle put it through just like when you make a shag rug now if you wanted to make a rug from this what would you have to do to make it work as a rug I would take it somewhere to a rug factory or rug lining company and they usually seal the back of it with a type of rubber or latex plastic coating and it seals it real well and it makes it non-skid like a lot of rugs are today and it also keeps from keeps these loops from being pulled out so easily because if one pulls the whole string comes out right okay so these are a little more fragile than other kinds okay you have a more sturdy rug and this one is a rug not a wall hanging well I've had it as a wall hanging I think I feel like the girls put that much trouble into it I'm not sure I want to walk all over it so I have had this hanging but this is more of a shag rug stitch and it is more permanent because you take a couple of stitches in it it's really bound into the burlap instead of just punched in with a needle mhm like this rug hooking procedure is you have to use a different kind of tool when you do this then yes this is just with a great big tapestry needle and there just is just like any other needle only they have a they're much longer and they have a big eye in them mm-hmm and then it's just a particular stitch you take it's not very hard at all once you catch on it does take much more yarn to do this because they are longer shags longer strings than it does to do a hooking how much yarn are these girls probably using on their hangings well it varies if they're using a lot of colors they probably aren't using much more than a scheme of each color and if they're using only like two colors like Sherry was I believe she'll be using much more mm-hmm as far as schemes go depends on how many colors they're using they look like they're working out pretty well it's keeping them busy is this a project you think you'll present other classes in the future I think so if they're willing like I say it's it takes a lot of time and and expense on their part if they really want to do it then I'm glad to show them how okay because I enjoy it myself this looks like a good project that you might want to try yourself if these gals can do it then I'm sure you can